tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695029109995059543.post7317316193972898418..comments2023-12-31T08:49:57.716-08:00Comments on green mormon architect: America’s 50 Greenest Cities (and Salt Lake made the list!)green mormon architecthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11697641593225602238noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695029109995059543.post-1762166386225869352008-03-13T23:10:00.000-07:002008-03-13T23:10:00.000-07:00That’s a really good point, and I had a similar co...That’s a really good point, and I had a similar concern prior to posting. I certainly wouldn’t want people to get complacent if their city made the list, but at the same time, until the Federal government gets involved and certain things are required, setting benchmarks and recognizing cities for the efforts they have taken is worthwhile since it shows areas where improvement is needed. Obviously, those four cities who aced certain categories, hopefully they don’t just sit back thinking they can’t do any more. If I had set up the rankings, I wouldn’t have given any city a perfect score in any category.green mormon architecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11697641593225602238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695029109995059543.post-36573853186492532772008-03-12T13:10:00.000-07:002008-03-12T13:10:00.000-07:00Addendum to SLC's feel-goody boosterism: Not that ...Addendum to SLC's feel-goody boosterism: Not that that makes SLC's environmental initiative any less deep than the other cities. Oh dear. What if everyone starts thinking they live in Green Cities when in fact nothing has really changed? How distressing.mhcshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10327849859164878472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695029109995059543.post-74907012781374875732008-03-12T13:09:00.000-07:002008-03-12T13:09:00.000-07:00SLC's green status has everything to do with Mayor...SLC's green status has everything to do with Mayor Rocky Anderson, and therefore everything to do with the church... as in, he did it because his constituency thought it would piss the Mormons off.<BR/><BR/>Ok, to be fair, I'm sure they love the earth too. : ) But it's definitely the democrats in Salt Lake who are behind the green movement, and not the LDS membership. I'm sure they're not opposed to it, they just didn't start the ball rolling by any means.<BR/><BR/>Also to be fair, I went to a lecture by Rocky Anderson about his environmental policies. I was not terribly impressed. In a large part SLC's green policy boils down to "we told local businesses to recycle, which they do anyway because it's good publicity, and switched all the traffic lights to LEDs." Their downtown public transportation is quite good, but that's more a countywide/regional initiative than SLC itself, and given how capably it serves church sites I would suspect the Brethren were involved in the planning. <BR/><BR/>Ok... I'm rambling now, but. My favorite moment of the Q&A session was "Mayor Anderson, Salt Lake has sold off the SUVs in its city fleet because of the pollution and bought ethanol-fueled vehicles instead. (This was when we still thought ethanol was a Good Idea.) How nice. So, where did the SUVs go? Are they STILL IN SALT LAKE by any chance?" He didn't really have an answer for that one. So anyway, my feeling on SLC's environmental ethic is it's really more feel-goody boosterism than anything else; mostly Rocky just picked off the low-hanging fruit so the next guy will actually have to work at it to make a difference, and therefore will look bad in comparison.<BR/><BR/>Disclaimer: Bill Buhler is an uncle-in-law. : )mhcshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10327849859164878472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695029109995059543.post-38012986424455334332008-03-12T08:34:00.000-07:002008-03-12T08:34:00.000-07:00Hi FoxyJ,Interesting thoughts. Salt Lake was the ...Hi FoxyJ,<BR/>Interesting thoughts. Salt Lake was the only city from Utah. You are right – SLC is about 180,000, and if less than half are LDS, and half of those are ‘active’, we’re only talking about something like 40,000 LDS. So religion probably does play a role, which is surprising to me with the strong environmental ethic the Church was founded on.<BR/><BR/>Interestingly enough, Arizona which has quite a large population – much larger than Utah, and a high percentage of LDS, had no cities on the list; same with Nevada and Idaho. In the southern US (also very religiously charged) – Florida, South Carolina, and Georgia similarly did not have any cities on the list. With the Catholics, Baptists, and Evangelicals coming out this week in support of global warming, it will be interesting what affect this has on their congregations.<BR/>http://greenmormonarchitect.blogspot.com/2008/03/religious-environmentalism.htmlgreen mormon architecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11697641593225602238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5695029109995059543.post-76874184536184650752008-03-11T22:22:00.000-07:002008-03-11T22:22:00.000-07:00Did any other cities in Utah make the list? Becaus...Did any other cities in Utah make the list? Because Salt Lake has the lowest proportion of Mormons in Utah. Is it the Mormons that make it more green or the lack thereof? <BR/><BR/>I'm honestly just curious, because one thing I didn't like about living in a more Mormon dominated city in Utah was the lack of environmental awareness. I don't know if it has to do with Mormonism or just a general "western" cultural ethic.FoxyJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17950095008611661757noreply@blogger.com